Review: PCLinuxOS (PCLOS) 2007 Final

Radically simple or more of the same?
By Oli on Monday, 21st May 2007. More information. Comments.

Oli reviews the final of PCLinuxOS 2007 to see if all the commotion about this quickly rising newcomer is really worth the weight people are pushing it with.

PCLinuxOS is a distribution that I've only really flirted with before, giving the last few test releases a quick look in and seeing how things were coming along. Having just learnt that the Final release of v2007 was out, I thought I would look a lot harder at it and see if it really offers the out-the-box experience that, amongst other people, my good friend Seopher is always saying.

PCLinuxOS 2007 Review

PCLinuxOS has always stretched a certain distance to try and make life easier in Linux. It has picked up incredible ground on DistroWatch recently, launching into the top 10. In terms of hits-per-day on DistroWatch, PCLinuxOS has been getting more interest than any other distribution.

Does it deserve all the attention or is it just hot gas? I'll try and find out.

Booting

PCLinuxOS 2007 is gorgeous. I could leave it at that with a few screenshots and be happy but there are a few quirks too that makes PCLOS a little different from other live distributions. Here's where we start – the boot menu – with choices for everything under the sun including two safe-modes.

PCLinuxOS 2007 boot screen

You're then treated to a really quite lovely loading screen. I'm not sure why the loading bar is positioned as it is but that's how it showed up on two different computers:

PCLinuxOS 2007 loading screen

You then get into the config section. While I think something like this could be useful for people with dodgy keyboards, I don't see why it has to happen before you're on the desktop. It just seemed a little odd but there you go. You can cancel and skip past it if you like.

PCLinuxOS 2007 pre-start config

The timezone screen is the one that really baffled me. The way things are organised is really illogical. Why isn't GB in Europe? Why is there an America and a US menu and why do they share entries? The world map in Ubuntu's setup seems to be the best idea I've seen.

PCLinuxOS 2007 timezone setup

The screen after this also never seems to understand that my BIOS clock it set to local time. It's 1800 at the moment and it's saying that the time should be 0100. Very odd. Again, this happened on both computers.

There's then some pretty dull networking and other device configuration that I shall leave to your imagination and then you arrive at the login screen. I'm not sure how much value this has in a live distribution. I think I'd rather just get into the OS than all this faffing around but it doesn't kill me and, again, it is damned pretty.

PCLinuxOS 2007 login screen

One more loading screen...

PCLinuxOS 2007 KDE boot screen

And the desktop.

PCLinuxOS 2007 desktop

Installing

I'm a really hard person to please when it comes to installations. On my main PC I have a really awkward setup and on my other testing PC I have several distributions. Therefore in order for something to work, it will have to jump over hoops and upset me as little as possible.

PCLinuxOS 2007 Draklive Installer

The Draklive-installer that comes with Mandriva does not fit my requirements on either system. Partitioning is dangerous and by no means good for a novice user to play with and even for a seasoned pro, going through and making your own partitions is a pain in the arse that I'm sure we'd all like to forgo.

Edit: Well I'm going to back-peddle a little. Draklive does have resizing features and comes with an experimental wizard that should handle a Windows parition and automatically shift it down in size to make room for PCLOS.

PCLinuxOS 2007 Drak

The only install I ended up doing was on VMWare where I knew I couldn't maim the rest of my computer as I tend to do with alarming regularity via Drak. It was uneventful and fairly simple past the partitioning.

Edit: The installation literature that is linked from the desktop is a good resource for finding out how to set up your own partitions if you really need to. They give good size estimates. While it does show you a lot of the screens, it does talk about some and not give screenshots. The experimental Windows resizer is one example.

In terms of getting the little things setup, you might find most of that is already done for you. For instance, my mouse's wheel, forward and backward buttons were all working. NTFS support onto local partitions was on by default and SAMBA shares were just a few clicks away.

Other post-setup installation is done via the convenient Administration Centre.

PCLinuxOS 2007 Administration Centre

This has the software section that would be found in Mandriva removed, probably because getting Drake and Synaptic playing nicely together is a nasty task — however, it would make sense for it to be there still.

Software

PCLinuxOS 2007 is built on and includes: kernel 2.6.18.8, KDE 3.5.6, Open Office 2.2.0, Firefox 2.0.0.3, Thunderbird 2.0, Frostwire, Ktorrent, Amarok, Flash, Java JRE, Beryl 3D, a whole bunch of codecs and a lot more.

At 697megs, it's almost bursting at the CD-seams but is it the best choice of software? For use as a live distribution, some of the applications are a little heavy. As a MCNLinux dev explained to me, for live distributions, you want to keep your application's memory footprint down and that's something you just can't do with Firefox; and Konq isn't a viable alternative. Other than that, the available software is varied and powerful even including tools for converting video files to video DVDs (DeVeDe).

Adding more software is done through Synaptic. This is a fairly standard thing for anybody that's used to it and it all seems to work fairly well.

PCLinuxOS 2007 Synaptic

The layout of software in the K Menu isn't something I'm particularly impressed with. Things seem to be hidden away in sub-menus for no reason and I think the usability of it would be improved if there were more options available from the start.

PCLinuxOS 2007 K Menu

Community Support

It's a well known fact: the larger your community, the larger your organic documentation – HOWTOs, FAQs, guides, troubleshooting and user-groups. The PCLinuxOS community is still minute compared to that of Ubuntu but that doesn't mean it's a worse distribution – only that Ubuntu has the lions' share of users. However it does mean that finding out how to do things that aren't immediately obvious can be a little tricky. When I Googled for how to install the nvidia drivers, I was taken to a Wiki page that used kernel 6.18 as the reference. Old stuff that didn't work.

Just a dirty comparison in size: #ubuntu on freenode has 1253 users in while #pclinuxos-support has just 25. Not the world's most accurate metric but one all the same.

With time, I'm sure, the community will swell to fill the gaps in the documentation and live-support that are there.

Conclusion

Just so you know, this is my second conclusion. I took such a beating in the comments over the first one from the PCLOS fans that I've looked a little deeper into my primary concern (the installer) and found that rewriting this last bit would sum things up best.

The installer does work but it's not all simple or apparent on its own. To really use it from a novices standpoint, you need the Installation Guide loaded up for most of the partitioning section.

The included applications aren't really anything special but the inclusion of Synaptic is a bonus for a Mandriva-based distro. Codecs and effects are included, saving you a minute's worth of work with apt-get but the sentiment is appreciated.

Support-wise the userbase is extremely small compared to the behemoth distributions like the Ubuntu family so finding out how to do obscure things is a good deal tougher than Googling but there are forums and IRC rooms so you might find that the slower rate of chatter helps your queries get seen.

This is solid progress for PCLOS. There are things that can and need to be improved to make some aspects as easy as *ubuntu but for the most part, here is a distribution that most users should be happy with... Even if you don't think the features are particularly amazing, the visuals make for a stunningly crisp distribution.

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Written by Oli on Monday, 21 May 2007. Tagged with linux, review. Read 35229 times. If you liked it, please give it a digg.

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#1 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
look in some aspects are you right but I was a Ubuntu user i run away from them big forum with really bad suuport it seem no body knows anything , diferent with this small comunity all are trying to help you, my hardware was out the box recognize with out any problem ubuntu kubuntu etc don't gave this just a good pain in the a...., I'm so happy with this distro so much at the end I can delete windows XP from my system it's the best distro i tried. and vista no way in my system. good job texstar and gang
#2 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
I think the review is fine. I've tried Ubuntu, MEPIS, fedora etc. and I do agree the installer is rather average. OK, its not as bad as the reviewer makes it out to be, but it still isn't as good as those offered from other distros. Little things like the grub menu, the warning of "we're going to destroy everything" etc. makes it pretty intimidating for novices.

As for the distro itself, I can't say I'm a fan. Mainly because i'm sitting on 640x480 resolution - with no wireless connection to download the ati proprietary drivers; no shortcut keys, crashing sleep etc. but of course there seems to be alot of users where it works flawlessly. Still, I do think Ubuntu is better stability-wise than pclinuxOS, even if it is harder to configure post-install, and is alot slower in many ways. I think, for example, my 640x480 would be fixed with xorg 7.2 - which ubuntu feisty and other "big" distros have - and pclinuxOS doesn't -> and the major factor in this regard is that Ubuntu simply has a bigger development team so they can bring more bleeding-edge packages at an acceptable level of stability.
#3 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
Looks like you rushed this "review" to be the first for the new release. Did you even try any of the apps? By the way, the PCLinuxOS forum told me right away where to get the Nvidia drivers - from the repository! And unlike Ubuntu, the drivers were the latest. PCLinuxOS might be smaller than Ubuntu in audience, but Texstar and the ripper gang also seem to be more responsive in getting the newest softs out there for the community. What they lack in size, they have in speed.
#4 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
Ubuntu and Kubuntu do not come with Java JRE installed. Ever try installing JRE? I did it many times in old releases of Mandrake, and I prefer not needing to do so. Or installing HP printer drivers. Those were two big reasons I switched to PCLos. Lastly, last time I checked, Opera is lacking in the 'buntu repositories. So it comes down to usability: out of the box, which OS is more readily usable. In my case, it's PCLos without a doubt. I think I've tried all of the top ten and then some, and for the work that I do, if PCLos weren't available, I'd be using Mepis. Sabayon is too bloated.
#5 — Author comment /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
Well after all the fuss in the comments, I had another look around the installer and the documentation and I've added a couple of paragraphs in the installation section and I've completely rewritten the conclusion. I got the wrong impression of the installer when I used it so it wasn't really fair to keep that all in.

I'm also cleaning out the comments that deal in "omg you're shit" or focus exclusively on Drakelive-Installer. If your comment is one that dies, I hope you understand and I welcome you to repost anything you have to say on this version of the review.
#6 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
Oh come on! Does this really have to degrade to a "which distro is best scenerio."

I do think the review is unfair. How long has the author worked with the distro? A quick lookie - see does not warrant a negative review.

PCLOS is an extremely stable, workable, and reliable operating system. Past releases of Pclos have proven themselves and so will this one in the long haul.

Awesome distro!

It deserves to be number ONE in the distrowatch rankings.
#7 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
I've been a big fan of this distro since the version 0.92 ( ver 2007 is counted as 0.94 if i'm not mistaken ), and I've never met any significant difficulties with this distro. About the partitioner, I've only tried Vector 5.8 beside the PCLOS,and the one that came with PCLOS is much easier........
There are lots of great things that come with this distro that I didn't find in other distros including the Ubuntu family. Why always compare any distro with Ubuntu ? Every distro is unique, has its own character, let one stands on its own.........
BTW Oli, what are the positives of this distro that you mentioned in your review ?
I'm more pleased to see a review that cover both sides of any product, which are the pros and the cons.
#8 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
Always had to go to a command line for getting java to work in ubuntu/kubuntu.
Yes it can be installed by deb packages after you enabled the right repositories but i always had to get to the commandline 'cause jre1.4 instead of the latest was set as standard. No problem for me to do say but for a linux first-timer who is still afraid of that black screen with white letters it's a little more difficult.

In PCLinuxOS everything just works and the community and communication with the developers is awesome. PCLinuxOS is the only distro i'll ever need!
#9 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
Hi All,
For me this is the easiest Distro for a newbie there is.
It just works.... even on my very old PC, a pentium at 400 mhz.

have fun with it
#10 /* 3 years, 10 months ago */
As a former Gentoo user, PCLinuxOS is for me like a nice walk in the forest. No problems during installation, including partion of disk (on a Pentium4, 2.4 MHz, 1.5GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 4 graphics card). Some problems postinstall (shutdown does not work properly). Regarding software, for my purposes (chemistry), I have to install also other programs from sources (not yet in repositories), but what is already on the CD, works. For desktop improvements I used ck-kernel patches (kernel from repositories) and nvidia proprietary drivers and also it works. However, when I tried to go back to xorg-nvidia drivers and again back to propritary drivers it was a hard time to work! (better to install again). Conclusion: for a new user which had no contact with Linux, and who does not try to tune himself the system, this distribution is very good one. Some more improvements in the documentation are useful (for instance, the Gentoo documentation handbook is an example). Another major advantage is the time of installation (about 20-25 minutes), so if you make a mistake (like I did) is no problem if you have an backup of your programs to setup again the whole system in few hours (4-5).
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