O2 Treats - Not As Good As They Sound

By Oli on Thursday, 25th May 2006. More information. Comments.

Aren't mobile (that's "cell" to the yanks) phone providers rubbish. Last month I got a text message from my provider, O2, saying that because I was a valued customer of theirs for six months, I was eligible for an "O2 Treat". All I had to do was ring the number and select what

Aren't mobile (that's "cell" to the yanks) phone providers rubbish. Last month I got a text message from my provider, O2, saying that because I was a valued customer of theirs for six months, I was eligible for an "O2 Treat". All I had to do was ring the number and select what I wanted.

Being British, I'm naturally a cynic — even at the best of times — and thought that the only reason for them giving me this highly suspect looking, four-digit-long phone number was to charge me for the outgoing call, so I canned the idea of ever calling it.

However, on the phone to my girlfriend this evening, she told me that she'd just got a text message through had rung the number and had selected on of these highly valued "O2 Treats". She said the phone call was free so I thought I'd investigate a little further and see if there is actually such a thing as a free lunch.

Welcome to O2 treats! This call is FREEEEEE!!! To pick your O2 Treat now, please press 1 now.... For more information about treats, press 2 now.

I pressed 1. It then gave me the following options:

For free text messages between 7pm and 8pm press 1 now

For 10 minutes any-time, any UK network, free talk time, each month, press 2 now

For 10 free text messages a month to any UK network press 3 now.

My contract does not come with any sort of daytime calling rate. I'm on a off peak plan and get ridiculous amounts of off peak minutes and text messages so I obviously want to be able to make peak calls, so I selected number 2.

It went on to confirm that I'd selected the free minutes and that they would start when I got my next bill. They will even send me a text message when they do start. I phoned Harri back up and she had the suspicion that when they come to deduct the minutes that we use when talking in the evening, they might take them out of our "Treats" before they take them out of our plans' inclusive minutes, but that would be totally crazy as we wouldn't be getting anything free.

I decided to go onto their web site's terms and conditions and check up on this, because as she said, it totally invalidates the point of there being a treat unless the first phone call you make, uses the treat at peak time. Lo and behold on their web site is the following clause:

7. O2 Treats minutes and messages will be decremented before all standard inclusive Calling Plan minutes and messages.

So yes. There is no point for the customer getting a treat unless they respect how to use them properly. If you're on a low-text tariff, then the text messages may go some way to help you out.

Furthermore, if you don't know this clause, and you make a 10-minute call in the evening and think you still have 10 minutes of anytime left to use, and make a call in the daytime, O2 have just robbed you of 10 minutes worth of call.. That's up to a fiver. No I'm not a sore-arsed customer who didn't read the terms and conditions. I'm one that did and I'm warning other O2 users. If you know someone on contract O2, make sure they have a read of this before signing up for a treat.

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Written by Oli on Thursday, 25 May 2006. Tagged with o2, offers, technology. Read 19880 times. If you liked it, please give it a digg.

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#1 /* 4 years, 9 months ago */
Oli - fair point but you still get the extra 10 minutes added to your existing minutes right?
#2 — Author comment /* 4 years, 9 months ago */
You do...

The reason it mean so little to me is I make a lot of evening calls, because I have hundreds of off-peak calls included...

As soon as I make a call in the evening with the "treat", it bypasses my contract's free minutes and uses them from my treat allocation.

If you're on a very low-usage contract and get very few/no free minutes this will have an effect but it works out that I just get an extra 10minutes off-peak which isnt very much compared to the rest of the contract...

O2 are rewarding the people who pay a smaller amount instead of the people who pay the premium rates.
#3 /* 4 years, 9 months ago */
I have 30 mins 'treats' (anytime anyone per month) and 600 off peak free minutes and it works fine just like that, no problem
#4 /* 4 years, 7 months ago */
Totally - when i first signed up for this i assumed they would be considered separate - (i have 300 free off peak) so when I came to check my bill I was surprised to be charged for my peak calls (I thought id be using the treat mins when they had gone on my evening calls!) I rang o2, and the assistant refunded me for the last 3 months worth of these calls (i dont always check my itemised bill) - saying there had obviously been a mistake - i signed up again for same treat only for the same bills to appear - this time though the o2 people (through email) weren't so nice and informed me of there terms and conditions as u mentioned above - which totally makes it pointless me using this treat as i can;t rely on making any day calls as im not totally sure which day is my new month and therefore resetting my treat! I have now switched to free texts between 7-8 but this aint so good either cos I already have 500 free a month that i don;t use fully..... o2 sucks!

Mike
#5 — Author comment /* 4 years, 7 months ago */
That was exactly what I was getting at, yeah.

I'm glad I noticed before I got stung, like you, but even then the call-centre-newbies (thankfully) see these things exactly how the consumers do and so you got your money back.

Pitty they had someone that knows what they're doing the second time =(

I've stopped signing up for them now and I'm just coming to the end of my 12months so its time to try someone else... 3 by the looks of the contracts available at the moment..
#6 /* 4 years, 6 months ago */
Thanks a lot for pointing that out.

The 02 tariff I have is the 500 mins off-peak and 100 text messages; it sounds similar to Oli's tariff.

So when I accepted 20 minutes (not 10) "any-time, any UK network, free talk time, each month" 02 Treat I was not aware of 02's terms and conditions.

I fully believed until I read this article today, that the 20 mins 02 Treat was for the very infrequent peak-rate calls that I make, and that it would be 'compartmentalized' away from my off-peak mins.

I believe that 02 are acting in bad faith as the telephone line for ordering of an O2 Treat does not relay the Terms and Conditions to you.

BTW -- Oli... you explained the stuff in this article (you used step-by-step for someone to know what an O2 Treat actually *is*) very well.
#7 — Author comment /* 4 years, 6 months ago */
Thanks Chris.

Well as I said in my last reply, my 12month contract came to its end. I looked around at what other peole were doing and 3 really did seem to have the best deal where you got a load of extra "free" things (time-limited) it was something like 700anytime minutes, 400textx and a Samsung z400 for an extra £50 (one off).

Again, I'm never the first one to bait O2, so I sent Harri into investigate what deals they might do to try and keep your custom... Ass soon as she said she might be leaving O2, the guy went crazy trying to bargain with her and here's roughly how it went:

h: contract is up - found another because it gave me anytime anynetwork minutes but i'd rather not change
o2: no but we can swap you to 200anytime anynetwork 500txt for £30pm
h: that's too expensive
o2: we can take £10 off the price
h: there arent enough minutes
o2: if you go onto the £35 one with the £10 discount you would get 500+500 for £25... do you know what phone you want?
h: samsung z400

Done.


It seems that as existing O2 customers we have quite some bargaining power when it comes to it... They switched us both to a slight boosted £35pm contract and gave us recurring £10 monthly deductions... None of this crap where you have to claim back your discount after every 3 months. All our minutes are anytime now. Plus we got the phone (which would have been £20 on the £35 contract) for free.

So if your contract is coming up for renewal, give customer services a call and tell them you need your PUK(?) code to move your number... I think the general idea for winning at this game is either:
a) say your friend got something like it (or better -- hehe)
b) be unhappy until they do what you want

Regardless, I'm going to be using my anytime minutes around the clock, so the treats might actually make a small defference to me now...

... That is when my contract actually gets around to starting... But that's a story I'll save for another day.
#8 /* 3 years, 11 months ago */
I think some of you numptys are missing the point. They're giving you something!! Something your not paying for, don't people respect that anymore??
#9 /* 3 years, 11 months ago */
Another ADVANTAGE of having it this way arround is, as your miniutes can be rolled over, you will have used up the ones that dont roll over first, giving you possibly more the next month! Better for you!
#10 — Author comment /* 3 years, 11 months ago */
SubNova: No. We're paying contract fees... While I know O2 don't have to do anything, minutes that just get wasted are pretty worthless.

Rich: Contract minutes can't be rolled over though... At least mine don't. Do yours?
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