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#31
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
Oli, if there's no adverts on this page it's not for lack of trying.
I quote: "You can advertise anywhere on the site".
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Fevric
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#32 — Author comment
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
Two posts, no link. Were you going to make a point?
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#33
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
Finally, somebody who gets it. A laudatory post by a good-hearted soul in a hobby forum about freerice.com a few days ago set me off, especially as the vast majority of the people discussing this seemed entirely innocent of arithmetic, or the ability to estimate. I went to my rice bin, brought some grains over to my O'Haus scale, and estimated 16,000 grains to the pound. A guess at five seconds to play a round leads to an estimate of an hourly productivity of about $0.05 per hour., given a world market price of $0.12 per pound
Simply put, freerice.com is evil, because it misleads good-hearted people into wasting their time by making them believe they are doing something worth while. If I try to analyze my seething anger at this con, it is because it is a cynical exploitation of virtue. One innocent soul posted that she had donated 5 bowls of rice, thinking that ten grains made a bowl. Another, slightly more realistic, was happy just to put a bite of food in a poor man's mouth, not knowing that ten grains is far short of what is normally referred to as a "bite."
Breen speaks for himself in the interview posted here:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/wavlength/archive/2007/11/should_you_trust_freericecom.shtml
It is not a registered nonprofit. In Breen's words, "It is just a website." You have to trust him. With no accountability.
Contemplating this for the last day or so, the most shocking thing to me is the automatic, laudatory response and near universal enthusiasm that has greeted this site. Coverage on news sites, CBS news with Katie Couric. Only the interviewer above, in a most timid fashion, asked the important questions of "How much in?" and "How much out?". (The answer was, "I don't know.)
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#34
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
I have something here which might be an interesting question to try and understand....or something that I've completely missed out on - in that case, someone please explain!
If the donations are run based on the number of clicks to an advertisement on the site - why are 10/20 grains of Free Rice donated only for the correct answers? Even for the answers that we get wrong, we get a new page, with a new ad, and new potential to click that ad.
Is it only to get people to stay on the site? Is the potential to donate 10/20 grains calculated taking into account the incorrect answers?
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#35
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
I have something here which might be an interesting question to try and understand....or something that I've completely missed out on - in that case, someone please explain!
If the donations are run based on the number of clicks to an advertisement on the site - why are 10/20 grains of Free Rice donated only for the correct answers? Even for the answers that we get wrong, we get a new page, with a new ad, and new potential to click that ad.
Is it only to get people to stay on the site? Is the potential to donate 10/20 grains calculated taking into account the incorrect answers?
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San
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#36
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
If you check out his website, it says that other things are being provided for nourishment of the poor (since you can't get all your necessary nutrients off of rice), like fruits and vegetables. I don't care to investigate, but I take it that extra revenue from the site is used for other things than just rice.
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Jeremy
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#37
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
If people have noticed, they have now increased the amount of grains from 10 to 20 per word !
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Someone
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#38
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
Ignoring his revenue, you have to admit that the dollar value donated is far less impressive than the almost 5 billion grains of rice donated to date. The dollar value may only be around $50,000. Still I commend him for doing this. Doing something is better than doing nothing...and much better than sitting around complaining.
But people could having a much bigger impact by working even 1 hour at a min. wage job and donating that money to the World Food Progamme http://www.wfp.org/ than by clicking on freerice.com for an hour (which probably results in less than $1 donated per user-hour). Trouble is many people won't actually make the donations themselves. John Breen's efforts have brought more attention to this cause, some money, and the site also does help people with the vocabulary. So more power to him. And if he can make a living doing this, a fair reward for his simple yet innovative contribution.
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MarkH
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#39
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
So, um... I quite personally think all of you are being completely thick headed. Some shipping company is going to let him send
tons
of rice all over the world for free, do you? That costs money, plus getting it passed out, and getting it through customs, paying people to take it to these remote locations. Then, there is also advertisement. He has to get the news out
somehow
. Think me stupid if you want, but sometimes 14 year-olds are smarter than adults. Just saying.
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PKAshley
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#40 — Author comment
/* 2 years, 4 months ago */
PKAshley, I totally see that. Shipping is going to factor in there somehow but I somehow can't see Breen doing all this himself. He's not personally putting this stuff in African villages; he's donating to the UN-WFP. They undoubtedly deal in bigger bulks than single short tons, so get much better rates. I'll ping them an email asking how much it costs them to buy a ton of rice, bag and deliver it.
The outcome of this post was another post:
Is all charity good?
The main problem raised there is that FreeRice would take 7 hours (now) to earn just $1 in rice. If you read that post, you'll see why I believe something isn't better than nothing, at least not in this case.
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