How not to service your customers

By Oli on Monday, 12th March 2007. More information. Comments.

Customer service is always at the forefront of somebody's mind when choosing hosting. Price and features are very important but when your server comes crashing to its knees and you need to contact somebody to get it back up again as soon as you can, it's the quality of customer service that will decide

Customer service is always at the forefront of somebody's mind when choosing hosting. Price and features are very important but when your server comes crashing to its knees and you need to contact somebody to get it back up again as soon as you can, it's the quality of customer service that will decide how large a migraine you suffer.

I've been quite lucky as far as CS goes. I've been with a few hosting companies and usually on the lower-end shared packages, so I never really expect any special treatment over other customers — just that my issues get sorted when they arise.

I stumbled onto the ASPnix hosting site today and was astounded by their prices. Hostek — who I'm with — are excellent value to the point where I doubt I'll ever leave them, but ASPnix is the first company that's made me think twice about staying here when I could save considerable money and get more features.

That was until I checked out their forums... Most companies opt to suppress their customers' voices in favour of direct support so I thought this might be the dreamhost of the ASPNET world. This is their customer feedback section today:

ASPnix Customer Feedback

There were some happy people but the majority of voices in the forum were barbed with torches and pitchforks.

There is something raw about public support between a company and its customers which you don't get to see when a hosting company fails to offer an official public outlet for the customers. Testimonials can help but 99% of the time they just look like they've been mocked up.

The only reason not to give voices to your customers is if they get unhappy and/or your support isn't up to much. One thing I gleamed from the forums while looking around was the only official on the ground was a guy called Roma and his customer service skills leave plenty of room for improvement as this thread demonstrates. I'm paraphrasing for space.

RobertLair: The website indicated 24x7 support, but looking at some of these responses, it almost sounds like this is a one or two guy outfit, which raises concerns as to whether this is the hosting company for my client.
Roma: Robert, don't be conserned. We work very fast here.

Conserned? Sorry... I'm a spelling-Nazi at heart.

Tommyweather: In any case my VPS is down again... it is to be expected because it has been a month since it was last down and two months since it was last down before that. I don't understand what is so hard about keeping my VPS up and running?
Roma: It's called Windows Update. Restart once a month.
Tommyweather: Thanks for imparting such wisdom oh wise Roma. Since it has been under a month since the VPS last went down needless to say I'm not thrilled with your answers nor am I thrilled with your tone.

Wow. So what lessons can we take from this little PR debacle? Firstly putting somebody who can just fix issues in a forum is not good enough. There are going to be times when that person has to answer all sorts of questions and it's important that they keep an official tone. Letting somebody use sarcasm — at least that's how it seems from here — at customers in a public place just seems idiotic.

There were also reports of moderators (read: Roma) nuking posts and editing things up. I discussed editing blog comments with Tyme of 9rules several weeks ago... But when is it okay to edit comments when customers are involved: Never-ever-ever. This makes you look like you're hiding thing from potential customers and makes your existing customers irate. Not a good situation for a service company.

I know I may have just caught them on a bad day/week/month/quarter/year/etc but forums are visible to your prospective customers too. They can show people both sides of your business and you really need to be on top of your game if you expect them to paint you in a good light.

If you're on the same side of the fence that I was on, always be sure to scour the internet for past and present customers' opinions of the company you're about to get into bed with. Support is very important so it might be worth giving their support a run for their money too before you've even signed up.

I'm pinging an email off to ASPnix to see if they have a response. I try to be fair here so I'll let them have their say and edit in the response, if they so wish.

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Written by Oli on Monday, 12 March 2007. Tagged with technology. Read 2575 times. If you liked it, please give it a digg.

#1 /* 2 years, 10 months ago */
Oli,

Thank you for reviewing our website. I’m glad you liked our prices. You are one of a few people who reacted negatively to our forums. First of all, our forums are not official. They are created to help clients find the answer to their problem, to be able to talk to other clients, make friends and leave feedback. You might ask: “make friends?” Absolutely! ASPnix is not just ordinary hosting company. We build a community. Many clients know each other and feel we are a family. That explains my reply to Tommyweather who is my friend. How do you talk to your friends?

We have been thinking a lot about the whole forum idea. We could make them more official, have moderated posts, etc., but so far clients are happy that they have an option to talk to us whenever and say whatever they want. We do not edit posts. We have removed a few messages in the past that were offensive. I have also removed a few negative posts that have been written with purpose to hurt our reputation. But all other real feedback posts either good or bad are there.

Currently we are working hard on our new website which will have more detailed information about who we are, our community ideas and goals. This will explain why we are so open. You mentioned that you like our prices. The new website will have same prices with more features.
Thank you again for your review and feedback. This makes us think again if forums must be moderated and official. To make this decision, as always, I will ask my clients.

Roman Buzinov
ASPnix Manager
#2 — Author comment /* 2 years, 10 months ago */
I do respect that.

It's certainly something that is coming through more and more in the hosting world: [some] people want to know the people that they're hosting with.

While I do think there's room for a little more friendliness in the world, I equally agree there has to be some line in business where you can say, ok I'm friends with Roma and he's a CS and that's cool but at the same time I need to know I can shout at somebody because my server is down... Can you see that conflict of interest?

Perhaps that works in your favour (fewer people shouting at you) but it probably does as much damage in that people feel it's a quite informal setup.

I can't say what will work best for you but I'll be sure to check you out in a little while to see how things are going.
#3 /* 2 years, 10 months ago */
Oli,

Yes, I do see the conflict here. People are trying to be friends here, but when a server goes down; there must be someone to be blamed. And it’s ok with me; I take all responsibility even when it’s not my fault and calmly trying to help clients anyway because I know servers do go down everywhere and always. All we can do is learn our mistakes, fix problems as fast as possible and in the worst case we give the whole month free of service if we don't meet our uptime promise.

-Roma
#4 /* 2 years, 10 months ago */
Interesting points made all round i think although the one thought i do have is that despite being friends with customers i would always use diplomatic, professional language within my companys forums. Of course mess around with your friends but you could implement your friends comments and use friendly remarks to improve on your image as well as 'playing' with them e.g.:

WildThing>> I dont like these cats, cats are rubbish, why would you use them on your site?
Oli>> The use of cats within my site are used to create a calming, homely effect for users, this combined with the fact that they are very professional in their appearance i think they are a welcome addition. However if i recieve more complaints on the subject i shall readdress my attitude towards them. Thank you for your feedback, hope thats cleared it all up. P.S. You can buy the first round now for being cheeky :)

Yar?
Born to make you happy
#5 — Author comment /* 2 years, 10 months ago */
Haha what are you smoking, WildThing? But you're right... You are buying the first round.

Back to Roma: I'd say that forums are a good thing for prospective customers to see what you're really like... An excellent insight... But, as I'm sure you're well aware now, it can also work against you.

I'd say keep things official in the places where people want official help from the company (support and announcement sections, etc) but be as informal as you like in the non formal sections and display somewhere... Perhaps keep them separated by having two forums...
#6 /* 2 years, 10 months ago */
It's a difficult line to tread, and for me proves you can't truly be friends with people you only know online. Whereas real-world friends you know, you can take their opinions and comments better.
What is thy bidding, My Master?
#7 /* 16 months, 20 days ago */
The forums were closed on 7/17/07 and it's now more than 2 months later. Guess that says it all in how not to communicate with your customers...

Like myself some long-time customers have limped along with them because it was a good host at one point time. I truly belive many of us would post nothing but praise if service levels were restored and Roma would learn how to "communicate".

BTW - To my knowledge Roma and TommyWeather are not friends. That's a bunch of Roma BS to put a good spin on it.
#8 /* 13 months, 23 days ago */
Just to have an update here, we have reopened Forums and added more stuff.

ASPnix offers new Hosting Plans to meet today’s market demand and clients’ expectations.

Shared Plans feature unique Unlimited Bandwidth – No throttling – No kidding!

Reseller Plans feature plans with much bigger disk space.

Virtual Server evolved into 160GB SCSI Disk drives and Terabyte of Bandwidth.

ASPnix Support is now more responsive with less than 15 minutes response time on email and quick replies on Messenger/Online Chat. We now also have Toll Free phone number for Support.

http://aspnix.com

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