Review: MCNLive Delft RC1

Mandriva 2007.1 Spring in light-and-sexy mode
By Oli on Tuesday, 01st May 2007. More information. Comments.

Another Linux review and in my sights this time, Mandrivaclub.nl's MCNLive 'Delft' Release Candidate 1.

Another Linux review and in my sights this time, Mandrivaclub.nl's MCNLive 'Delft' Release Candidate 1.

As you can probably tell by the maker's domain name, MCNLive is a Dutch production. To teach you a little more, Delft is a city of about 95,000 people in South Holland. Now you know so we can carry on with the review.

The focus of MCNLive is portability — be that on the freely downloadable LiveCD or a USB drive. The meagre 374megs of MCNLive allows you to get away with installing this on very cheap little flash-drive and that makes it perfect for carrying around and using when you need your programs.

MCNLive Delft RC1

MCNLive is built upon Mandriva's Latest 2007.1 Spring and has probably one of the prettiest boot screens I've seen. I've not used Mandriva since it was still called Mandrake, so I expect I'm in for a few surprises.

Speed

1m40s, BIOS to desktop

Performance is the most essential thing for any distribution like this that intends to stay mobile and "Live". While I can't say MCNLive is as fast as PUD GNU/Linux, I can say it was close, taking just 1m40s, BIOS to desktop.

It's similarly nippy around the desktop. There are a few pauses here and there but that's mainly CD seek and spin-up time rather than data transfer. That's great because if you wump this on a USB stick, you'll feel like you're on a standard HD install.

Hardware

The hardware compatibility is excellent. It found my dodgy wireless card on my dodgy old laptop and worked perfectly fine on both my desktops. It wasn't happy about supporting 3D on my nvidia card out the box though, something they list as a feature for some reason.

Applications

MCNLive whips the pants off PUD in this respect. They haven't stripped everything away and there is still a lot of the power of Mandriva poking through and I had no problem getting the generic wifi PCMCIA card in my older laptop working in a few clicks.

Relating to the networking, that's something I dislike about Mandriva: almost anything you want to change that's ever had anything to do with what you might call the system and you have to head into the control centre. For most things this isn't an issue but for a LiveCD, I would have expected something like KNetworkManager to be loaded in the tray on boot.

desc Where's Firefox?!

MCNLive has a very bizarre browser selection and Steve's going to love this one: Konq (no surprise there) and Opera !!! Where's Firefox?! I'm not Opera's biggest fan. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad just that Firefox has my back and we know each other intimately.

Plug-in wise, MCNLive is armed to the teeth with: QT, Flash, Shockwave, WMP, Java and RealPlayer of all things, so you're pretty well kitted out for installing and heading off to NewGrounds or YouTube.

MCNLive does lack one genre of applications that I would expect on a LiveCD such as theirs: office apps. I guess they're quite heavy apps to keep on a live distro but they could have been offset against the KDE games which are still present... Leave KBounce on though.

To add/remove software in a graphical environment you must battle Mandriva's software management applet: RPMDrake. It's not bad but some of the information could be laid out a little better. This is a problem I have with Mandriva, not MCNLive on its own.

Conclusion

MCNLive Delft is very promising. There are definitely a few areas where they could improve but overall, this is a very fast and very powerful little release, perfect for whacking on a USB memory stick.

I'd like to know what's happening about 3D drivers as I didn't have too much luck with those while I was playing around — but being intended for use as a portable system, I can see why they might not want to get weighed down will silly things like that.

For the most part, the applications included are well chosen and the range of plug-ins and codecs already installed make getting off the ground really quite a nice experience. For everything that isn't included, the available package management makes it easy to customise and the available installers make it easy to get from CD to USB.

Most of my interface complaints are aimed at Mandriva, not KDE or MCNLive. If you're at home with Mandriva, you'll have no problem finding things and I think you'll really like this offering.

To surmise: MCNLive Delft is a solid platform for anybody that needs a LiveUSB distribution platform. The lack of what I'd call needed-software means I can't recommend it for HD installation or running from LiveCD on a regular basis but for portable writeable media, this is awesome.

Visit the MCNLive project page

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Written by Oli on Tuesday, 01 May 2007. Tagged with linux, review. Read 5797 times. If you liked it, please give it a digg.

#1 /* 2 years, 8 months ago */
Thanks for the review, Oli.

Office: yes, it's the first version without office suite, hard decision. It is a space issue, so we call it the 3D desktop fun release, or something like that. It is to keep the copy2ram feature for people with 512 RAM intact.
We will release a second edition with office stuff and printer drivers later on.

3D: only open source drivers included, it is a policy of MCNLive, so 3D stuff with Intel and ATI cards only. You got nvidia, I suppose?

FF: run FF on a live system and compare it to Opera ;-)
(btw that's the same reason why a net applet is not in the tray. Makes a live system for people with little RAM crawl).

One final remark. A feature of MCNLive is: create your own customized live version. Based on my experience with static live systems, 100 users, 101 needs :-)

Cheers and thanks again,
--chris
#2 — Author comment /* 2 years, 8 months ago */
Thanks for the reply, Chris.

Office: As you say, every little bit of space on a Live distro is premium. That's why I was surprised to see all the KDE games sitting in there still. Their sum can't be that light, can it?

3D: I thought the nvidia drivers were the open source ones... I thought ATI's were horrendously... erm... horrendous! But yes the system I tested on with any 3D capabilities was a nvidia.

FF: Fair points there. I do see Firefox on other distributions but I agree, unless they're extremely lightweight, it's quite a slow and unforbidding process.

Is the prefetcher (to use the horrid Windows term) that's responsible for uncompressing things on the fly intelligent? Does it know when it's running from USB rather than CD and put less in RAM, accordingly? Does the USB version use itself as a pagefile too?

Anyway, I've got to say that I was quite impressed with it and I'll definitely be keeping my eyes on it as the project progresses.
#3 /* 2 years, 8 months ago */
The Live USB is basically the same system as on the CD, a compressed squashfs system, dynamically uncompressed when needed. The speed difference is the slow cd/dvd drive (in particular on notebooks, a horror) compared to the speed of an usb port and the quality/read speed of the usb flash drive. Try it on a usb stick! And if you have min. 512 MB RAM, you really must try the bootcode: livecd copy2ram, works from CD and USB.
Once loaded it is faster than any HD installed system.

And yes, the kde games packages are tiny (without the doc pages) compared to a full-featured Office suite.
#4 /* 2 years, 8 months ago */
I'm liking the ideas behind Delft. Good to see someone taking copy2ram seriously. Puppy linux does this by default if there's enough memory (128mb for puppy, it is very lightweight - but still very useful! )

Anyway regarding 3d drivers - Intels drivers are open source as are drivers for oldish ATI cards. For Nvidia & recent ATI cards proprietry drivers are needed for 3d (Beryl/Compiz effects). Nvidias closed linux drivers are generaly considered to be much better than ATI's for features and quality. This is why Nvidia cards are often recommended for linux despite the drivers being closed source. There are open drivers for both for 2d but not 3d. There is also project nouveau which aims to make open sorce drivers for nvidia but are not yet working.
#5 /* 2 years, 8 months ago */
(Disclaimer: I'm working for Mandriva)

I'm pleased to see a positive review about a Mandriva-related distribution. MCNLive is proposing another choice of applications and that is useful to satisfy the requirements of different Linux users.

For your information, we are putting the finishing touch on the "Spring" based Mandriva Flash with some nice new features for the month of June. Mandriva Flash is the successor product of the mobile technology we started back in 2003 with Mandrake Move.
#6 /* 2 years, 8 months ago */
I'm using it right now on an older PIII 1.0 GHz. machine with 512 MB RAM. It's not the quickest live CD I've seen but not the slowest either. Haven't tried copy2ram yet but I'm going to and see what the difference is. I miss Firefox a little bit but Opera is not bad either.

I did read a news item today where AMD (now that they have bought out ATI) announced at the Red Hat conference that they are going to work on open sourcing the drivers for their video cards. So I guess we'll see what the situation is a year or so from now.

I've seen some "so so" reviews of Mandriva 2007.1 lately but I've always had a soft spot for Mandrake/Mandriva ;) I run it on my somewhat older Thinkpad.
#7 /* 2 years, 7 months ago */
The ideas behind MCNlive are fantastic, I love the slim and sleak LiveCD,it is more useful than Knoppix to me and will stay next to my computer so I can enjoy the fun of useing it to remaster and to test iso's in a virtual environment.
I don't miss openoffice.
#8 /* 1 year, 6 months ago */
Just to mention I had been looking for a tool that would help me
1° remaster a distro
2° drop it on a live USB
and without too much HOWTOs browsing and command line typing

I must say MCN Live exeeded my expectation by very, ver, very far.

As for softawres missing : just get to the RPM manager, get what you want, remaster (one click), burn (almost one click), reboot with new CD.

Awesome

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